Temperature problems

Wink-IT
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:35 pm
Location: NRW, Germany

Temperature problems

Post by Wink-IT » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:46 am

Slowly I despair with the A10M. After everything is calibrated fine now the extruder makes problems problems with heating up.
The heating process is getting slower and slower and more often it quits with an error message "heating failed..."
First it came at temperatures over 230°C but now I can't reach 200°C already.
I tried to autotune the pid for the hotend and the bed, but it does not make a difference.
The tension of the hotend is 23,9v and the hotend has a resistance of 15 ohms.
What is wrong? The printer is just two weeks old!!
And what does the support say about that? Where can I get in contact with them?
I wrote an email but they just answered that I should contact them via whatsapp or facebook.

User avatar
_kaktus_
Site Admin
Posts: 1260
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 pm
Location: PL
Contact:

Re: Temperature problems

Post by _kaktus_ » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:16 pm

Hi.
:mrgreen:

Check that all connections are good. I mean the heating circuit of the hot end.
On the forum I help to use the rod, I don't give fish.
Geeetech Prusa I3 M201 Dual extruder Mixcolor 3D printer, bought 2017-12-19, already built, in the cognitive and improvement phase
Geeetech filament, ABS only
Geeetech 3D WiFi Module for 3D Printer, bought 2018-04-15, He got a new life, and still lies in a drawer.
Positively frenzied customer of Getech Technology.

User avatar
William
Site Admin
Posts: 6340
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:38 am

Re: Temperature problems

Post by William » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:53 pm

It should be these reason:
1.The PSU part
If the PSU has an issue of the output(More than 50% load)
You can use another PSU for a test
2.The motherboard mosfet overheating
You can check its temp and then try to add the heat sink for it.
3.The PID is incorrect.
You can try to use the "M303 E0 S200 C5".
-Keep your mind and try to test it. :)
-Everything will be fun!-Support all Getech printer.
-You can ask me the questions and I will kindly reply.
-Respect others is the best way you can get help!

Wink-IT
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:35 pm
Location: NRW, Germany

Re: Temperature problems

Post by Wink-IT » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:41 pm

Its getting more and more strange.
I measured the power supply and can't find anything wrong.
The same to the voltage and resistance of the hotend.
Always when heating up to 220°C from 180°C to 200°C it will get more and more slow and quits with an error message.

But when autotuning the pid it will heat up to 250°C without problems!
So how can you explain that?

User avatar
_kaktus_
Site Admin
Posts: 1260
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 pm
Location: PL
Contact:

Re: Temperature problems

Post by _kaktus_ » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:55 pm

Hi.
:mrgreen:

In that case, I think it's a software problem. See what William wrote in point 3.
On the forum I help to use the rod, I don't give fish.
Geeetech Prusa I3 M201 Dual extruder Mixcolor 3D printer, bought 2017-12-19, already built, in the cognitive and improvement phase
Geeetech filament, ABS only
Geeetech 3D WiFi Module for 3D Printer, bought 2018-04-15, He got a new life, and still lies in a drawer.
Positively frenzied customer of Getech Technology.

Wink-IT
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:35 pm
Location: NRW, Germany

Re: Temperature problems

Post by Wink-IT » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:38 pm

I did pid autotune several times up to 240°C.
And while autotune runs the hotend heats up to the desired temperature without problems.
But after that I always have the same problem. The heat process is taking very long time and quits with an error message.
What I already did/tried:

1. Measured resitance of hotend and thermistor. both are ok.
2. Measured the power supply. same here, everything looks fine.
2. Checked cables and plugs. Everything ok.
3. Did pid autotune several times. Without any improvement as described above.
4. Uploaded actual firmware.
5. Wrote to support and described my problems. They will send a new hotend. But I'm not realy shure that it will be the cause of my problem.

And now I have no idea!

Wink-IT
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:35 pm
Location: NRW, Germany

Re: Temperature problems

Post by Wink-IT » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:15 pm

I think I got it.
Measuring under load while heating up bed and nozzle revealed significant voltage fluctuations (12V to 23V).
I think the power suplly is causing the problems.

Now I measured the voltage at the other printer (A10) under workload (nozzle 250°C, bed 85°C).
The voltage looks stable but it is at 10V.
Is this normal behavior?

User avatar
_kaktus_
Site Admin
Posts: 1260
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 pm
Location: PL
Contact:

Re: Temperature problems

Post by _kaktus_ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:41 pm

Hi.
:mrgreen:

Bravo, in my opinion, you found the source of the problem.
So replace the power supply.
:D
On the forum I help to use the rod, I don't give fish.
Geeetech Prusa I3 M201 Dual extruder Mixcolor 3D printer, bought 2017-12-19, already built, in the cognitive and improvement phase
Geeetech filament, ABS only
Geeetech 3D WiFi Module for 3D Printer, bought 2018-04-15, He got a new life, and still lies in a drawer.
Positively frenzied customer of Getech Technology.

User avatar
William
Site Admin
Posts: 6340
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:38 am

Re: Temperature problems

Post by William » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:45 pm

The voltage should be 24V when the PSU is under load status.
Your PSU seems has an issue of the output.
Try to contact the sales to send you the new PSU.
-Keep your mind and try to test it. :)
-Everything will be fun!-Support all Getech printer.
-You can ask me the questions and I will kindly reply.
-Respect others is the best way you can get help!

Wink-IT
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:35 pm
Location: NRW, Germany

Re: Temperature problems

Post by Wink-IT » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:12 pm

I measured the voltage at the other printer (A10) under workload while printing.
Its working without problems but the same there. The voltage is going down to 12V.
That would mean both PSU of the printers are defective after only 2 weeks.

Post Reply