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A10 V4.0 & 3DTouch - Inconsistent readings
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:34 pm
by flathaed
I am trying to get a 3D touch sensor set up, but I am getting some inconsistent Z readings. It seems like every time I run the Auto home I am getting a different result. With the same Z offset one time when I move the Z axis to zero it will be above the bed by 1mm or more, and other times it will press hard into the bed. I have not tried to print with it becuase I can forsee an issue with the nine point test if each time it is reading random values.
Is there a setting that could cause this? Could there be a bad wire connection? Or do I just have a bad Sensor?
I can deploy and stow with the menu commands, and the auto test functions just like it is supposed to (as I far as I can tell from watching youtube).
Does anyone have any ideas?
Re: A10 V4.0 & 3DTouch - Inconsistent readings
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:58 am
by mr_fosi
I don't have an idea but I can confirm your problem.
I had the same issue with my A10 and 3DTouch. I spent hours laying on the floor with my eye at bed level, making fractional mm adjustments, but it would always do the same thing you report.
I finally gave up and tossed the probe into my parts box. I may try it with a printer that has better firmware or I may not.
It's more important that I am able to print, so I just keep an eye on the first layer and adjust the leveling screws on the fly if I need to.
Re: A10 V4.0 & 3DTouch - Inconsistent readings
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:05 am
by JahNix
Your all not crazy, its the 3D Touch sensor.
Its garbage.
Throw it on a decent board like a Duet3D and do some basic testing via the usual process
- Set Z=0
- Raise Z+10
- execute G31 S-1 to report probed trigger
Results below from a Macro that cycled 12 times with a 2 second pause between every movement
3.250
3.352
3.625
3.632
3.275
3.220
3.358
3.463
3.625
3.612
3.678
3.630
3.618
Rule out the mount and bracket as this is a solid mount to the frame on a custom CoreXY machine I have.
Because I bought 3x3D Touch units, I grabbed another fresh one out of the pack and looped the same cycle:
3.158
3.117
3.283
3.194
3.241
3.682
3.363
3.186
3.714
3.621
I stopped the macro here as its pretty consistent with the last readings - I didnt bother testing the third unit... But I did plug in a BL Touch from another printer:
3.055
3.058
3.052
3.053
3.058
3.054
3.056
3.058
3.055
3.056
3.058
3.054
As you can see, not a variation beyond 3.05x which is more than Acceptable for our FFF printers.
In my mind the $65 I bought the 3x3D Touch units, would've been better off on a single BL Touch leading to less wasted filament and time lost trying to sort out the issue.
Most printers get to .01 mm and the 3D Touch has a error factor that effects our prints - EVERY TIME
You will have more success by manually leveling, or get a legitimate BL Touch that at least has far better error resolution (.0001 vs .1)...
Re: A10 V4.0 & 3DTouch - Inconsistent readings
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:19 am
by mr_fosi
That is an awesome post, JahNix.
Thanks for taking the time to collect the data and post it.
Now, if only the mod would sticky this.