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Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:05 pm
by aps
Hi there, I need some help. I assembled my new i3X, and at the first test the heat bed heated up to 65°C in short time.

But after 30 Min. while the first testprint, I registered the temp was dropping down to about 55°C.
Now the heat bed is warming up to about 50°C, then it takes very long time for every °C more, can't reach the 65°C after 20 minutes.

I am measuring
  • 1 - 1.5 Ohm resistance on MK2A head bed (incl. the LED)
    Heatbed current is about 4-5 Amps when powering
    PSU voltage drops down from 13V to 11V when heatbed powers on
    the power MOSFET on the GT2560 Board is getting warm approx. 60°C (estimated)
Any hints what is going wrong there?

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:00 pm
by Mark
the resistance is in normal range, how's the PSU? you select 220V or 110V?

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:23 pm
by aps
220V, the first thing I checked before PSU mounting.
Is this normal that voltage is dropping down when heating the bed?

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:25 pm
by aps
220V, the first thing I checked before mounting PSU.
Is this normal that voltage on PSU is dropping down when bed is heating?

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:30 pm
by Mark
it will drop a little, but not that much like yours, you can use a 12V computer power to test it.

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:13 pm
by aps
Thank you Mark, I connected a 750W 12V/62A ATX PSU :twisted:
Started with heat bed temperature of 21°C, target 65°, after 20 minutes I was stuck on 60°C

I have still the original firmware on board. Is the Repetier-Host able to change the PID-values?
Because as said, at the first run it was heating up much faster.

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:23 pm
by Mark
can't remember the Gcode command, you can check the reprap wiki gcode page for the details. If that's not gonna worm, then you might need a new heatbed...

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:03 pm
by aps
I tried PID autotune for heat bed with

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M303 E-1 C8 S90    //this will run autotune at 90 degrees, for 8 cycles
and used S60 for 60 degrees, but also did not reach this in time.
There was also the information that 70°C should be reached in less then 3 minutes.

Next step will be to replace the heat bed, this will take some days.

Thank you for your help to locate the problem.

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:53 pm
by elocm
Hi aps,

on my Prusa I3 M201 the heatbed goes quite quickly to 80°C. Anyhow this model has a 24V power supply and quite a different board. Did you check that all your connectors on the board are ok and not "melted". This could create additional resistance and reduce the effectiveness of the heatbed.

Re: Problems with heat bed

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:18 pm
by aps
Thank you elocm, but the heatbed was broken in the first 30 Minutes. Replacing the heatbed solved the problem.