I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
hello ,
i have purchased a DIY i3 m201 printer , acrylic.
i have it about 10 days now , since 24/1/2017
i have put it all together and every part is working
extruders are working , heated bed is working ,nozzle heater is working , lcd screen is working ,X axis are working ok , Y axis are working ok , fans are working, leds are working ok .
the building platform , is bended at the center according the X axis and Y axis movement of the printing head .when i calibrate it at the edges ,going to the center of the platform there is a gap which is getting bigger at the middle . it is about 1 to 1,5 mm
i put the platform at a glass surface and it clicks when i touch it (that means that it is not perfectly flat ) but there is no gap with the platform and the glass that looks like it is 1 mm .
after contacting with geeetech through ebay , they offered to send a new building platform , but before that , i think is better to get out of the way next problem with left Z axle .
Z axis are not working so good , i have to unscrew the screws to be lose at part No16 from left Z axis axle because it is getting in the way if it is screwed tight and Z axis dont move .left motor is trying to move but it cant when screws are tight .
even with this settings , it has a little shuttered movement at some heights , at the beginning , and at about 5 cm .
i took out rods and part No16 from left Z axle and test it and is moving flawless out of the machine .
an other thing , is that i can not keep both Z axis aligned , even if i put them at the same height , after one move up and then home Z ,they get uneven . i tried to switch the rods that are attached to the servos .
i also pulled up a little left Z axle with the help of the coupling (No48 that gives movement from the servo to the metallic rod of the Z axis .
that looks to help a little .
i am using repetier last version with slic3r , i also set up the repetier server mode so i can send prints from other computers .
this is my first print , and since then prints are getting worst
http://imgur.com/a/Pw7ms
here is a video of printing the above cube (2x2)
https://sendvid.com/je0vuu0d
i am tired of trying and reading general staff from the internet so any help is more than welcome .
thank you
*pictures are from a greek forum where i am describing my experience of getting my first 3d printer.
i have purchased a DIY i3 m201 printer , acrylic.
i have it about 10 days now , since 24/1/2017
i have put it all together and every part is working
extruders are working , heated bed is working ,nozzle heater is working , lcd screen is working ,X axis are working ok , Y axis are working ok , fans are working, leds are working ok .
the building platform , is bended at the center according the X axis and Y axis movement of the printing head .when i calibrate it at the edges ,going to the center of the platform there is a gap which is getting bigger at the middle . it is about 1 to 1,5 mm
i put the platform at a glass surface and it clicks when i touch it (that means that it is not perfectly flat ) but there is no gap with the platform and the glass that looks like it is 1 mm .
after contacting with geeetech through ebay , they offered to send a new building platform , but before that , i think is better to get out of the way next problem with left Z axle .
Z axis are not working so good , i have to unscrew the screws to be lose at part No16 from left Z axis axle because it is getting in the way if it is screwed tight and Z axis dont move .left motor is trying to move but it cant when screws are tight .
even with this settings , it has a little shuttered movement at some heights , at the beginning , and at about 5 cm .
i took out rods and part No16 from left Z axle and test it and is moving flawless out of the machine .
an other thing , is that i can not keep both Z axis aligned , even if i put them at the same height , after one move up and then home Z ,they get uneven . i tried to switch the rods that are attached to the servos .
i also pulled up a little left Z axle with the help of the coupling (No48 that gives movement from the servo to the metallic rod of the Z axis .
that looks to help a little .
i am using repetier last version with slic3r , i also set up the repetier server mode so i can send prints from other computers .
this is my first print , and since then prints are getting worst
http://imgur.com/a/Pw7ms
here is a video of printing the above cube (2x2)
https://sendvid.com/je0vuu0d
i am tired of trying and reading general staff from the internet so any help is more than welcome .
thank you
*pictures are from a greek forum where i am describing my experience of getting my first 3d printer.
Last edited by 3eyesd on Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:54 am, edited 4 times in total.
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
i m still around , i intend to spend a long period of my life with 3d printing , so any guidance would "start me up" to try something
thank you
thank you
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
by the way , is there a setting at Easy Print (i have not tried it yet ) to set two color/dual extruder printing (not the fillings or any other standard printing stage ) ? in Repetier , i have not found it (yet )
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
an idea that just came to me but not for solution to my little problems , is that it might be better to have the parking position at the right side , to get the weight even, because when it is left and the X axis motor is also left , there is uneven weight at one side of the structure .
i just made two videos with poor quality , but from the sound you can hear if the Z rods and X rods are straight enough
https://sendvid.com/z800wdt3
https://sendvid.com/d82caizj
the first 4 rods are the Z axis rods .
and the 2 last are the X axis rods .
2 more videos that presents that at least one Z rod is ok for sliding (and the other is ok too) but when it is the structure on it ,the left Z axle finds difficulties at at least two positions climbing up .
https://sendvid.com/atvwwzcl
https://sendvid.com/92v6s2l2
i just made two videos with poor quality , but from the sound you can hear if the Z rods and X rods are straight enough
https://sendvid.com/z800wdt3
https://sendvid.com/d82caizj
the first 4 rods are the Z axis rods .
and the 2 last are the X axis rods .
2 more videos that presents that at least one Z rod is ok for sliding (and the other is ok too) but when it is the structure on it ,the left Z axle finds difficulties at at least two positions climbing up .
https://sendvid.com/atvwwzcl
https://sendvid.com/92v6s2l2
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
i took a video trying to specify the problem of Z axis to specific parts .
at the right Z axle , i put the lead rod and it slides down through Z axis nut like it should .the 4 screws at part No16 (Z axis nut) are tight .
https://sendvid.com/i4wqz826
at the left side of Z axis , i try the same but if the screws are tight , the lead rod does not slide and does not goes into part No16 (Z axis nut ) . so i unscrew ,to be lose ,the 4 bolts that are holding this piece (No16).
and with a little help , slightly changing the angle of part No16 with my finger , since the screws are lose , the rod slides down just from gravity , like the right Z rod does .
both Z axis nuts are working good with lead rods out of the machine .
at the right Z axle , i put the lead rod and it slides down through Z axis nut like it should .the 4 screws at part No16 (Z axis nut) are tight .
https://sendvid.com/i4wqz826
at the left side of Z axis , i try the same but if the screws are tight , the lead rod does not slide and does not goes into part No16 (Z axis nut ) . so i unscrew ,to be lose ,the 4 bolts that are holding this piece (No16).
and with a little help , slightly changing the angle of part No16 with my finger , since the screws are lose , the rod slides down just from gravity , like the right Z rod does .
both Z axis nuts are working good with lead rods out of the machine .
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
Hi,
How is everything going now?
What is the main issue you are having now?
How is everything going now?
What is the main issue you are having now?
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
hi bang ,
everything is pointing to that it is gonna work right , but not right and now
the basic problem is of course the aluminum building platform,which is bend toward the center (thats why the only print i did that looks that almost became something is at the edge of the platform ) . at geeetech-official from ebay offered to send one to replace it immediately (so that looks like it is fixed in the present future)
i bought a glass but was too thick , 0,5 cm and i didnt manage to print on it . i also used (i think it was pva ) a glue with no success.
the left axle where i describe at above posts, if i move the Z axis some times up and down , there are two positions at left lead rod ,that even with the 4 screws lose at left Z nut , brakes a little and it loses tiny steps compared to the right axle .so it looks like it needs continues calibration .
if the 4 screws are tight , left Z lead axle it does not move at all .
i dont know what to check , in case something else in the structure causes this .every thing else looks ok .
at the printed object i have in the pictures, looks like Y axis had lose some steps and not Z because the most misplace is vertical , i think that i had the Y axis belt lose then .
i havent manage to print anything better than this.
the more i try the printings get worse
i was expecting a bit of disappointment through the process of building my first 3d printer
everything is pointing to that it is gonna work right , but not right and now
the basic problem is of course the aluminum building platform,which is bend toward the center (thats why the only print i did that looks that almost became something is at the edge of the platform ) . at geeetech-official from ebay offered to send one to replace it immediately (so that looks like it is fixed in the present future)
i bought a glass but was too thick , 0,5 cm and i didnt manage to print on it . i also used (i think it was pva ) a glue with no success.
the left axle where i describe at above posts, if i move the Z axis some times up and down , there are two positions at left lead rod ,that even with the 4 screws lose at left Z nut , brakes a little and it loses tiny steps compared to the right axle .so it looks like it needs continues calibration .
if the 4 screws are tight , left Z lead axle it does not move at all .
i dont know what to check , in case something else in the structure causes this .every thing else looks ok .
at the printed object i have in the pictures, looks like Y axis had lose some steps and not Z because the most misplace is vertical , i think that i had the Y axis belt lose then .
i havent manage to print anything better than this.
the more i try the printings get worse
i was expecting a bit of disappointment through the process of building my first 3d printer
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
i was looking at the step motors and i was thinking to replace them and i found a post in this site that is about motors and a discount they made about their power
https://www.geeetech.com/forum/viewtopi ... 17&t=17935
my printer is based on 42SHD0034-20B step motors
i have and other problems , like when i have two fillings but only use one of them (have not tried to use two fillings at the same time ) , the other is melting and it becomes thicker and then the extruders are not able to move it back or forth the second filling , so i have to pull it out by hand and cut the melted part . if there is no second filling from extruder #2 , then the first filling jams the second hole with the same results .
i am starting to think that it might be a good solution to send back the printer and stop waisting my time with this one .
https://www.geeetech.com/forum/viewtopi ... 17&t=17935
my printer is based on 42SHD0034-20B step motors
i have and other problems , like when i have two fillings but only use one of them (have not tried to use two fillings at the same time ) , the other is melting and it becomes thicker and then the extruders are not able to move it back or forth the second filling , so i have to pull it out by hand and cut the melted part . if there is no second filling from extruder #2 , then the first filling jams the second hole with the same results .
i am starting to think that it might be a good solution to send back the printer and stop waisting my time with this one .
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
So it sounds like the 3-in-1-out nozzle can't handle the mixer filament properly?
Re: I3 M201 building platform and Z axis
hi again bang
i dont know
mine is a 2 filaments in 1 nozzle and does not look like it does it good enough .
here is a picture of the printing head from geeetech
and here is what is happening
any suggestions about anything that can guide me to try something are welcome
i dont know
mine is a 2 filaments in 1 nozzle and does not look like it does it good enough .
here is a picture of the printing head from geeetech
and here is what is happening
any suggestions about anything that can guide me to try something are welcome