What's up everyone,
I've been running a Geeetech A20M for about a year now, alongside a Robo3D R1+ I've had for over 5 years now.
The A20M is a great printer, I've had a lot of success with it. I quickly discovered how much I didn't like the buildtac type print bed surface that came with it, so I installed a nice thick borosilicate glass plate.
Everything was awesome! For months!
Then out of nowhere it seems, this goofy Y-axis layer shift thing starts ruining nearly every print. Its always intermittent, sometimes it shifts on layer two by like 50mm, most other times it'll wait until around layer 50 or 60 before starting to shift, and not by much. Just enough to ruin the print. It continues shifting through out if I don't stop the print.
First I read all the way through these forums. Lots of info, some good stuff like adjusting VREF. It was a bit nerve racking at first, but it quickly became comfy to do. But what do I adjust them to? All I could find were ranges of voltages.
I taped a tiny Phillips bit to the positive lead of a multimeter so I could get real time readings of the Extremely minute adjustments I was making. I saw the X and Z drivers were at 1.020+vdc, but the Y driver was different at 1.010+vdc.
Is that enough to make it do these weird shifts?? I don't know. So I made them all equal at 1.020 and printed a 20x20x20 test cube. Printed perfectly.
I used this test cube to calculate the perfect steps/mm adjustment so that the cube measures a perfect 20.00mm on all three axes. (Actual steps/mm × desired dimension ÷ printed dimension = new steps/mm) So I try to print something larger, and the shift returned.
I think the driver must be bad then. Right?
So I got new replacement motor drivers. I changed the Y axis motor driver and adjusted it to 1.020+vdc. Test cube shifts on layer 2 by a lot. That was unusual. I try again and it prints fine. Bigger piece: fail.
I took a few days away from it. I looked through these forums again and saw someone mentioning a correlation to "equipment weight" and VREF. It all clicked.
Stepper motors move according to their last position, but never report their actual position. Every move after home is calculated, so if something changes, the machine would never know.
I added a big glass plate that adds to the weight of the Y axis workload a while ago. I believe that the VREF was set too low for the extra work the motor has to do, and it's like sometimes steps are sent but not used by the motor.
VREF or Voltage REFerence, adjusts the constant voltage going to the motor. Stepper motors should have their operating spec range listed on them, for the A20M the included steppers are 1 - 1.2v. The higher the VREF, the more power the motor has for motion and for holding.
More power means more heat though. Too much and the motor burns itself up.
So, I adjusted the VREF of all 5 motor drivers to 1.18vdc and there is no more layer shifting. I used a non contact thermometer to ensure the motors are within a healthy operating range, generally 10-100°C.
Hours into a print they reach almost 50°C which is warm to the touch but well within limits.
I spent plenty of time trying to figure this out, so I hope this helps you all.
Y-axis layer shift FIX plus explanations
Re: Y-axis layer shift FIX plus explanations
How does one go about adjusting the VREF? Is that through software? Directly on the printer? Or editing a file and and flashing firmware? I also added a glass plate and it's very possible I'm having a similar issue! Although mine may be in the left to right direction, not the front to back plate direction.
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Re: Y-axis layer shift FIX plus explanations
A left to right layer shift is a problem with the X axis, front to back is Y axis. I believe both can be solved by increasing VREF to a safe range.
To adjust VREF, you will need to access the motherboard underneath. I laid the printer on its side, and removed the bottom cover. A bunch of Allen screws all around. There is a fan attached to the cover, do not remove the fan from the cover, it's way more work than it needs to be. Just unplug the fan wire connection from the motherboard and move the cover well out of the way.
On the board you'll see 5 stepper motor drivers, should be 3 on top and 2 on bottom. Each driver has a little metal grill looking thing, it's a heat sink and they are important, but can fall off if bumped just right. Try to leave them alone. Right next to the heat sink is a tiny little phillips screw. It does not mount anything, it doesn't 'tighten' and you cannot remove it. The rotational position of the screw determines the voltage output to the respective motor. The top three from left to right is Z, Y, X then the bottom 2 are the extruder motors.
Power on the printer.
Attach a tiny screw bit on the positive lead of a multimeter, and hold the negative against a ground wire coming from the power supply, which is also under the cover plate.
When you touch the positive lead of the multimeter (set to 0-20 volts DC) to the adjuster screw on the driver board, the meter will show the output voltage of the driver. 1.2v is about the most the motors are labeled to safely handle, I set ALL my drivers to 1.18vdc and have good results.
Be careful! You can short circuit something if you touch things you aren't supposed to. I take no responsibility for damages. Please be careful! If you're not sure, continue researching or ask.
To adjust VREF, you will need to access the motherboard underneath. I laid the printer on its side, and removed the bottom cover. A bunch of Allen screws all around. There is a fan attached to the cover, do not remove the fan from the cover, it's way more work than it needs to be. Just unplug the fan wire connection from the motherboard and move the cover well out of the way.
On the board you'll see 5 stepper motor drivers, should be 3 on top and 2 on bottom. Each driver has a little metal grill looking thing, it's a heat sink and they are important, but can fall off if bumped just right. Try to leave them alone. Right next to the heat sink is a tiny little phillips screw. It does not mount anything, it doesn't 'tighten' and you cannot remove it. The rotational position of the screw determines the voltage output to the respective motor. The top three from left to right is Z, Y, X then the bottom 2 are the extruder motors.
Power on the printer.
Attach a tiny screw bit on the positive lead of a multimeter, and hold the negative against a ground wire coming from the power supply, which is also under the cover plate.
When you touch the positive lead of the multimeter (set to 0-20 volts DC) to the adjuster screw on the driver board, the meter will show the output voltage of the driver. 1.2v is about the most the motors are labeled to safely handle, I set ALL my drivers to 1.18vdc and have good results.
Be careful! You can short circuit something if you touch things you aren't supposed to. I take no responsibility for damages. Please be careful! If you're not sure, continue researching or ask.